Sunday, April 04, 2004

Mission-critical blows away wind power

This discussion occurred on Sunday, April 4th, 2004 commencing at approximately 8:17 p.m. and ending at 8:35 p.m.

Kelly: Hello! My name is Kelly, and I am a (Live) Fanatical Service Specialist with Rackspace. I am here as a site guide to answer any questions you may have about our products and services.
Kelly: Are you researching a new hosting project or looking to replace or upgrade an existing solution?

Guest53215: i was kind of interested to learn a bit about your hosting. I wanted to find some host that is focused on using only renewable energy
Guest53215: hello?
Guest53215: Kelly, are you there?

Kelly: Hello,

Guest53215: hey

Kelly: sorry just got that through, one moment

Guest53215: np

Kelly: Okay I am sorry abou the delay
Kelly: well as to your requirements I think they are wondeful, or your interest

Guest53215: s, ok
Guest53215: thanks

Kelly: I am not aware of any hosting company doing that.

Guest53215: really?
Guest53215: well, that's not good

Kelly: at this time renewable engergy is just not cost effective in a production environment, servers take a lot of power.
Kelly: and they require absolute redundancy

Guest53215: i guess they must
Guest53215: how many do you have on site?

Kelly: even a second of downtime and doctors lose patient records, sytems and applications fail, etc.
Kelly: we have around 9,300 across 4 locations.

Guest53215: so, i guess wind power is out of the question then
Guest53215: you don't suppose I could have you send me an email with this information do you?

Kelly: Yes, well I think there may be a market for mixing in renewable resources with traditional power at some point, but with data centers, they focus more on 100% availabilty, redundant power grids, etc..

Guest53215: i am tim.****@sympatico.**

Kelly: I can send you an overfview pdf.

Guest53215: i can't capture this conversation

Kelly: yes I can send this to you.
Kelly: and an overview.

Guest53215: can you describe the problem with renewables?
Guest53215: ok, that would be great

Kelly: well I think I just did, but I am not an engineer.

Guest53215: i am still interested in your company
Guest53215: is there a way to become a reseller?

Kelly: As I see it, essentially it costs serveal times more to use that type of energy

Guest53215: can you be absolutely sure you are giving me valid information

Kelly: and in a competitive market place that is a difficult number to add to themix.

Guest53215: someone's career may depend on this
Guest53215: not yours

Kelly: I cannot be sure, however I know that we do not have solar powered servers or wind powered servers, and immediate plans for that in the future.
Kelly: Do I know it is more expensive and less reliable at this time, of course that is a given.

Guest53215: what about purchasing electrical power from companies that provide energy from renewable sources?

Kelly: do I know servers take a lot of power and that if they are mission critical, yes.
Kelly: Well I think most providers do that, I know the our local power service uses some wind generatros.
Kelly: generators.

Guest53215: ah, well that's different then

Kelly: not sure of the mix, just that they do R&D and work with renewable resources.
Kelly: as to reseller programs
Kelly: we do not offer them in the commons sense, meaning

Guest53215: do you know the name of your power company?
Guest53215: is it the same for each of the four locations?

Kelly: you cannot buy our servers and reseller them with your own branded name.

Guest53215: oh, ok

Kelly: No it is not, we are based in San Antonio, and that would be City Public Service of San Antonio,

Guest53215: you can just move registered IP addresses then, i guess, right?

Kelly: I have no idea who it would be in Virgina, or London.

Guest53215: London, England?

Kelly: I am not sure what you mean, we assign IP addresses, you move domain names.
Kelly: yes London, England.

Guest53215: whoops, sorry

Kelly: You can resell from our servers.

Guest53215: where is your other location?

Kelly: to smaller webhosting clients
Kelly: we have 2 data centers in San Antonio.

Guest53215: oh, ok. and you are based in San Antonio?

Kelly: our servers start from the low $400's a month.
Kelly: yes we are based in San Antonio.

Guest53215: do you also do development?

Kelly: Is that the kind of price range you were considering?

Guest53215: as in database development and such

Kelly: we do not, we have clients who do that, we do not compete with them.

Guest53215: well, i was hoping for something a little less expensive

Kelly: Typcially hosts who do development either do not do it well.
Kelly: Or they do not host as well as they should

Guest53215: so what's on your typical backend then?

Kelly: yes again we are geared toward mission critical environments, we host for a great number of high profile clients.
Kelly: we have 4-5 Tier providers per data center.
Kelly: Tier1
Kelly: I meant

Guest53215: lol
Guest53215: right
Guest53215: ok

Kelly: AT&T, Spring Qwest

Guest53215: wow
Guest53215: big names

Kelly: no transit stuff like Level 3, Internap, or Abovenet etc
Kelly: and of course Sprint, no spring and TimeWarner, UUnet etc.

Guest53215: so you are a major part of the backbone i would guess

Kelly: anyway, we do have a company loosely affiliated with us
Kelly: www.serverbeach.com

Guest53215: what do they do?
Guest53215: hosting?

Kelly: they start around $100 a month
Kelly: yes, dedicated self-managed servers

Guest53215: that's getting down around my price range...
Guest53215: is it better if I talk to them or can you do that for me?
Guest53215: and are we talking in USD?

Kelly: I would check them out, they do nice work, you would have to contact them.
Kelly: Yes in uSD
Kelly: they were started by our founder
Kelly: but a totally indpendent company

Guest53215: i guess i'll take the recommendation...
Guest53215: can you still send me this conversation?

Kelly: Yes I can do that.

Guest53215: that would be fantastic...


World renowned wind expert Paul Gipe is also making a presentation on wind energy to the Ontario Rural Council at the Holiday Inn in Peterborough on April 6th, 2004 at 1:00 pm.
Mr. Gipe has shown Ontarians how they can win big with wind under advanced renewable tariffs.




-- and my sister-in-law calls ME a shit disturber... where did she come up with THAT!! --

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